March 3, 2017

Vague and Confused

A show about rules and what happens when they’re vague and randomly enforced.

The Hawaiian island of Niihau

Sean Cole/This American Life


The Department of Homeland Security’s new policies on deportation have sown fear and confusion among undocumented immigrants. Ira Glass and Lilly Sullivan go to Chicago and meet a family trying to navigate the situation. No one knows what to expect. (12 minutes)

A Dave in Court

A judge in a suburban New Jersey courtroom wants the people who come before him to see the rules as fair. Including our reporter, David Kestenbaum. (19 minutes)


“If I Ruled the World (Imagine That)” by Nas feat. Lauryn Hill